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Knowledge / Philosophical / Practical
Notes
- Socrates addresses the Athenians at the court.
- Says the accusers only speak untruths and he only truths.
- Says he won't change his way of speak, he'll use his costumary way.
- Cites the tragedy "The Clouds" by Aristophanes, where he is shown in a misleading way;
- "Let the speaker speak truly and the judges decide justly"
- Defendes himself against the older accusers
- "Socrates is evil-doer, searches for things in earth and in heaven and makes the worst look better; and teaches it to others"
- Says he has nothing to do with physical speculations.
- Says there're many others who charge for their supposed wisdom; not him.
- Explains why the have the "bad fame" of wise;
- Chaerephon asked the Delphi oracle about who's wiser than Socrates; "No man";
- "If only I could find a man wiser than myself", his search starts with this;
- Inquiries with politicians, poets, artisans
- Found out the men with higher reputation knew the lesser;
- Politicians < Poets < Artisans (The more reputaton, the less wisdom);
- "I don't have their knoledge or ignorance"
- Puts it as obedient to the God, as a divine mission;
- Instead of angrey with themselves, they're angry with me;
- Created many enemies because of this, this is the real nature of the accusation;
- Accuser Meletus on behalf of poets;
- Anytus; artisans and politicians;
- Lycon, rhetoricians;
- Defendes himself againt the more recent accusers
- Meletus again;
- If am their corrupter, who is ther improver? Meletus stays silent;
- After pressed: "The laws", and then "the judges, the senators, etc.";
- Socrates: "I alone am the corrupter?"
- Happy they would be if they had only one corrupter and the rest of the world their improvers.
- "Do not the good do their nighbours good, and the bad do them evil?", "Certainly";
- "Does any one like to be injured?", "Certainly not";
- "Do I corrupt them intentionaly or unintentionaly?", "Intentionaly";
- "Either I do not corrupt them; or I corrupt them unintentionally";
- "I mean that you are a complete atheist";
- Socrates says this is inconsistent, how come he believes in supernaturation begins and demigods and not in gods?
- Rather like believing in flute-playing but not in flute-players;
- About his behavior on trial;
- "A man good for anything should only consider what he does is right or wrong, not if he'll live or die";
- Nobody knows whether death is the greatest evil or greatest good;
- "I tell you virtue is not given by money, but from virtue comes money and every other good of man;"
- "Nothing will injure me, not Meletus or Anytus, a bad man can't injure a better than himself;"
- The evil he is doing (unjustly taking away the life of another) is greater than the injure done upon me;
- "You may sin againt God by condemning me, you won't easy find a successor to me;"
- I am like a gadfly that prevents you from sleeping; without me or other fly like me, you will stay asleep;
- Later on Socrates says undisturbed sleep would be better then living, then...
- Examined life > Undisturbed sleep (death) > Living sleep (unexamined life);
- "If I were in politics, I should have perished long ago and done no good to anyone;"
- He who will fight for the right; must have a private station and not a public one;
- This rejects the idea of going to public and making the transformation from there, but instead to transform from the private sphere;
- I have been always the same in my actions, public as well as private;
- "I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live" (said after condemnation)
- Divine signs
- Voice he hears since childhood which forbids but never commands;
- Socrates thinks he has a duty by God of cross-examining other men;
- Signs by oracles, visions;
- About not having relatives on the trial;
- They would appeal only to ask favour of a judge towards acquittal;
- Instead, one should inform and convince him;
- His duty is not to make a present of justice, but to give judgment;
- About his condemnation and gives alternative punishment
- Difference of 30 votes;
- Looking to it before its own interests
- I sought to persuade every man to look to himself, and seek virtue and wisdom before he looks to his private interests,
- and look to the state before he looks to the interests of the state;
- Socrates rejects the followings possibilites (he proposes no penalty):
- penalty of death: not afraid of death;
- imprisionment: be a slave of the magistrates of the year (the Eleven);
- exile: where unknown people would less likely accept him as this now;
- Virtue is the greatest good of man;
- Unexamined life is not worth living;
- Penalty proposed:
- 30 minae, having Plato, Crito, Critobulus and Apollodorusas sureties;
- Final words and the meaning of death
- For having killed a wise man, though he thinks he isn't wise;
- Neither in war yet at law ought I or any man to use every way of escaping death;
- The difficulty is not to avoid death, but to avoid unrighteousness;
- The oracles were silent about the trial, Socrates takes that as meaning death is not evil (otherwise they would say something);
- Socrates thinks there is greater reason to hope that death is a good;
- He compares an undisturbed sleep to days of life;
- How many days and nights are more pleasantly than that sleep?
- To die is gain; eternity is a single night;
- But if death is a journey to another place, all the better.
- One could talk to ancient heros and wise figures;
- "I shall examine them", this without the inconvenient of dying again;
- Socrates asks the Athenian to punish his sons if they value riches more than virtue in the future in other to receive justice, both him and his sons;
- Now is the time, I to die, you to live, which is better God only knows;
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